Blood and circulation

[Carrie Naturalway]

Has anyone tried anything to improve their blood and circulation? I've been trying to figure out why I feel so much better in the summer and I can't find out anything or figure out why but I do get cold so easily and just love the heat. Sun, fresh air, more oxygen, something plants give off, I don't know but I am exploring the circulation idea because I think it suffers in the winter. I know we have low blood volume, hypoperfusion, dysautonomia, orthostatic intolerance, pots, the sodium/dehydration issue. I have read that in Chinese Medicine winter is considered a time to tonify and nourish the blood because the cold makes blood vessels constrict and blood can stagnate. I have herbs all ready to try in the winter and a red light device to try but I am curious to know if anyone has explored this and tried anything. It seems like some people with CFS feel better in the summer but most feel worse so I'm not sure if this will be a helpful route to take.

 

[pamojja]

My main disease has been a walking-disability from PAD 16 years ago. 13 years ago an additional COPD. 9 years ago, after the remission of COPD and the Walking disability, continuous PEMs (exhaustion, brain fog, pains) remained.

My main treatment modality was comprehensive lifestyle changes (including as much sun as possible) and supplementation. Did the PAD already respond to Linus Pauling's therapy, the COPD practically forced me to escape the deepest winter to a South Indian beach, and to additional Ayurvedic remedies. I continued to take my yearly vacation in winter, always to the same beach.

Except 2 corona years, when it was prohibited without vaccine. And when I found, infrared light would replicate some of the effects of sunshine.

PEMs finally went into remission 7 years ago. However, by now I used so many interventions, it would be difficult to entangle all co-factors at play. It did coincide with my only root-canal treated tooth (done just before it all started) being extracted, 32 Magnesium-sulfate infusion (against a by oral intake, irresponsive deficiency), and LDN more consistently above 2 mg/d.

Sunshine played an essential part in all my 3 remissions. Retold in more detail here: https://www.longecity.org/forum/stacks/stack/111-pad-and-additional-remissions/

 

[Carrie Naturalway]

Thanks for your comment! Glad you are doing a lot better. I read through your protocols, I've done many of not most of them and others and they helped. I feel like l am almost cured in the summer but not in the winter. I also catch a lot of viruses in the winter and that has increased after COVID, starting in late 2023. But even if I catch a virus in summer I still do better.

Maybe it's as simple as sunshine. I go in the sun all year round but it must be summer or tropical sun that works. If I go on vacation to a tropical place in the late fall it will prolong my feeling better for longer. For example - no vacation and by late November I will begin feeling poorly, vacation in November and I won't feel badly until mid January. My PEMs are much better in the summer, they're not nearly as bad and I recover quicker. I look forward to testing this out with a red light device in winter.

 

[pamojja]

vacation in November and I won't feel badly until mid January.

That's why I always fly middle of January till end of February. Otherwise, this time of winter would be the worst for me. On the other hand, with such pronounced CVD, I've been a clear subset of ME/CFS, and obvious why blood flow and circulation is so important.

Despite so many parasitic or bacterial infections, viral had been absent for me. Fever already since my last malaria in 1999. With the only exception of my initial COPD escape (after a 1-year persisting chronic bronchitis) for the first time on my beach. Where I suffered for one month high fevers, chills, vomiting and diarrhea. Stool test implied typhoid fever. And such high fevers for so long probably killed the bacteria in the lungs. Needless to say, with so much damage from antibiotics in my life, I avoid now like the pest.

and they helped. I feel like l am almost cured in the summer

For me, my interventions seem still necessary to stick to. Or some symptoms do return. For example, during corona winters without tropical sun, slight walking-pain in my legs returned for the first time again.

Also had for the first time severe pains in my major joints last fall. Probably first bouts of rheumatic arthritis. Analyzing my supplement intake, I realized having reduced all anti-inflammatories which would help with that too (like Boswellia, Curcumin, Ashwagandha, GLA or Ginger), the last couple of years. Loading up on them again, joint pain bouts have mostly ceased again.

 

[Carrie Naturalway]

That's why I always fly middle of January till end of February. Otherwise, this time of winter would be the worst for me. On the other hand, with such pronounced CVD, I've been a clear subset of ME/CFS, and obvious why blood flow and circulation is so important.

Despite so many parasitic or bacterial infections, viral had been absent for me. Fever already since my last malaria in 1999. With the only exception of my initial COPD escape (after a 1-year persisting chronic bronchitis) for the first time on my beach. Where I suffered for one month high fevers, chills, vomiting and diarrhea. Stool test implied typhoid fever. And such high fevers for so long probably killed the bacteria in the lungs. Needless to say, with so much damage from antibiotics in my life, I avoid now like the pest.



For me, my interventions seem still necessary to stick to. Or some symptoms do return. For example, during corona winters without tropical sun, slight walking-pain in my legs returned for the first time again.

Also had for the first time severe pains in my major joints last fall. Probably first bouts of rheumatic arthritis. Analyzing my supplement intake, I realized having reduced all anti-inflammatories which would help with that too (like Boswellia, Curcumin, Ashwagandha, GLA or Ginger), the last couple of years. Loading up on them again, joint pain bouts have mostly ceased again.

It's helpful to know that you seem to have a robust immune system because that takes the idea that sunshine is helping the immune system out of the equation. Sunshine is found to help autoimmune disease so I thought maybe that is the reason I feel better in summer, because sunshine is helping my immune system. That still may be the case, but since we seem to share the circulation/blood issues it could point to something there. I'm sure there's a lot we don't know about the benefits of the sun. Now I'm wondering if I should have gotten a combination UV/red light device and not just red light.

I can't travel in the winter because there's a good chance I will have a virus when it's time to go, or I will catch one on the plane going. So I push my vacation to the very end of fall. I seem to always get sick around the last week of November so I know how long I have. Though actually I should have October be the cutoff because last year I went in November and caught something while on vacation at a place with a lot of tourists. Lots of non-symptomatic carriers. Terrible to get typhoid, that's a bad one. I'm glad you got over that. I never get fevers, so I'm jealous of your fevers are robust immune system, lol!

I take a lot of anti-inflammatories too, very helpful. I take all the ones you do and some more. Always looking for others to try. I also really like resveratrol, it helps a lot, and it seems to work synergistically with turmeric/cucurmin. I have some mild joint/muscle aches, but I'm thinking more about my brain inflammation. I take grape seed extract to try and help with that, for one thing. My neurological problems are kind of on the bad side. Have you looked into nattokinase? I can't remember if that was on your list.

 

[pamojja]

I'm sure there's a lot we don't know about the benefits of the sun.

There are simply too many pleiotropic effects of sun-light and -warmth, to be aware of them all: Mitochondrial endogenous melatonin synthesis (which isn't reached by supplementation), nitric oxide in the vascular system; microbiome, immune (beyond vitamin D), and neurotransmitters modulation - to name a few.

Terrible to get typhoid, that's a bad one. I'm glad you got over that. I never get fevers, so I'm jealous of your fevers are robust immune system, lol!

Well once in 25 years a singular 1-month lasting fever, I don't consider really that robust. I even had the illusion in youth of a really strong immunity, since I overcame so many onslaughts apparently without difficulties. However, all those infection (malarias, bilharzia, amoebae, tubercles, etc.) in reality all damaged almost all organ or metabolic systems. I got the repair bill not surprisingly around age 40, when resilience and endogenous repair usually declines.

Have you looked into nattokinase? I can't remember if that was on your list.

I do have clear mainstays in my supplements, with clear correlations to whole remissions. But there are too many, to give each a full trial on their own. Therefore, I copy the Ayurvedic approach, where a combination of low dosed mutually supportive extracts show greater synergistic effects, than high-doses of individual herbs. I do feel really different to many ME/CFS, who allegedly can feel differences in taking a new supplement within days. As I posted just the day before yesterday on phoenix rising:

For me, it was different, I never expected 1-day improvements, with my failing heart, lung, liver, kidneys, spleen, androgens, thyroid, glucose metabolism, etc.

I knew this damage had been done during decades, practically my whole life. And indeed thought the chance for repair, even a fraction of it in further decades, rather unlikely.

So I never expected quick results, though in retrospect some did occur. But I really don't immediately 'feel' any supplements. Except a few disturbing sleep, better taken in the morning.

Nothing more to lose, I persisted with my lifestyle changes and comprehensive supplementation. I did however track improvement or worsening of interventions with a many as possible lab-markers. But felt not much otherwise.


The remission of PAD took 7 years, PEMs a whole 10 years to subside. With all major body systems failing, it takes time, and addressing the whole of it, which 1 supplement simply can't (except in rare case, with much less involved).


The chronic diseases in my case were caused by a plethora of things, how could they ever resolve with an isolated agent? I'm just over-joyous that they did.

In such a case patience and persistence is key. Not felt, but improving blood-markers kept me on track for so many years.

Nattokinase I trialed low dose together with serrapeptase, papain and mainly bromelain. And, as with most individual nutrients, nothing isolated to report.

A post later (there on phoenix rising), I did mention the main nutrients, which did show surprising isolated effects. But neither of them would have been able to cause the strong synergy for such improbable remissions, as from PAD, COPD or PEMs.

I will have a virus when it's time to go, or I will catch one on the plane going. So I push my vacation to the very end of fall. I seem to always get sick around the last week of November so I know how long I have.

Despite my stunning success with vitamin C, I never succeeded to enthuse anyone about its high dose applications with active viral infections: http://www.doctoryourself.com/titration.html - it seems just too otherworldly and inconvenient for most. To dose so many grams down to every 20 minutes, for overcoming viral infections. But it would work in most cases, once the aversion to ingest so much of an acidic powder during 1 day overcome. Thought, I should mention anyway.

 

[suzanne-wa]

Has anyone tried anything to improve their blood and circulation? I've been trying to figure out why I feel so much better in the summer and I can't find out anything or figure out why but I do get cold so easily and just love the heat. Sun, fresh air, more oxygen, something plants give off, I don't know but I am exploring the circulation idea because I think it suffers in the winter. I know we have low blood volume, hypoperfusion, dysautonomia, orthostatic intolerance, pots, the sodium/dehydration issue. I have read that in Chinese Medicine winter is considered a time to tonify and nourish the blood because the cold makes blood vessels constrict and blood can stagnate. I have herbs all ready to try in the winter and a red light device to try but I am curious to know if anyone has explored this and tried anything. It seems like some people with CFS feel better in the summer but most feel worse so I'm not sure if this will be a helpful route to take.

I did try a supplement blend of Nattokinase and Serrapeptase in hopes it might help. I decided to discontinue after about three weeks when I noticed an unexpected a bruise on one of my palms.

 

[pamojja]

when I noticed an unexpected a bruise on one of my palms.

Baby aspirin only, causes blood in stools for me. Found it alleviated by using lecithin or straight Phosphatidylcholine at the same time. Despite taking so many supplements with potentially anticoagulating action, none of them seem to have that side-effect of aspirin. Though, might be accumulative, by so many supplemental anticoagulating agents.

 

[TJ_Fitz]

Has anyone tried anything to improve their blood and circulation? I've been trying to figure out why I feel so much better in the summer and I can't find out anything or figure out why but I do get cold so easily and just love the heat. Sun, fresh air, more oxygen, something plants give off, I don't know but I am exploring the circulation idea because I think it suffers in the winter.

I generally get worse in the winter also. Have you ever heard of CIRS (aka "mold illness")?

Some online personalities in the community have borrowed the phrase "November effect" from the financial sector to describe your experience. CIRS patients tend to get worse over the winter because there's usually less air exchanged between inside and outside (windows staying closed), and because the greater amounts of condensation within outside-facing walls causes more microbial activity, which worsens symptoms.

If you are interested in learning more about CIRS, I'd recommend visiting Dr. Richie Shoemaker's website. It's a bit dated, but he's the best authority on the condition.

 

[tabbycat]

Has anyone tried anything to improve their blood and circulation? I've been trying to figure out why I feel so much better in the summer and I can't find out anything or figure out why but I do get cold so easily and just love the heat. Sun, fresh air, more oxygen, something plants give off, I don't know but I am exploring the circulation idea because I think it suffers in the winter. I know we have low blood volume, hypoperfusion, dysautonomia, orthostatic intolerance, pots, the sodium/dehydration issue. I have read that in Chinese Medicine winter is considered a time to tonify and nourish the blood because the cold makes blood vessels constrict and blood can stagnate. I have herbs all ready to try in the winter and a red light device to try but I am curious to know if anyone has explored this and tried anything. It seems like some people with CFS feel better in the summer but most feel worse so I'm not sure if this will be a helpful route to take.

I haven’t tried it yet, but I recently read about strengthening the soleus (calf) muscle to improve blood circulation plus many other benefits.

 

[Carrie Naturalway]

There are simply too many pleiotropic effects of sun-light and -warmth, to be aware of them all: Mitochondrial endogenous melatonin synthesis (which isn't reached by supplementation), nitric oxide in the vascular system; microbiome, immune (beyond vitamin D), and neurotransmitters modulation - to name a few.



Well once in 25 years a singular 1-month lasting fever, I don't consider really that robust. I even had the illusion in youth of a really strong immunity, since I overcame so many onslaughts apparently without difficulties. However, all those infection (malarias, bilharzia, amoebae, tubercles, etc.) in reality all damaged almost all organ or metabolic systems. I got the repair bill not surprisingly around age 40, when resilience and endogenous repair usually declines.



I do have clear mainstays in my supplements, with clear correlations to whole remissions. But there are too many, to give each a full trial on their own. Therefore, I copy the Ayurvedic approach, where a combination of low dosed mutually supportive extracts show greater synergistic effects, than high-doses of individual herbs. I do feel really different to many ME/CFS, who allegedly can feel differences in taking a new supplement within days. As I posted just the day before yesterday on phoenix rising:



Nattokinase I trialed low dose together with serrapeptase, papain and mainly bromelain. And, as with most individual nutrients, nothing isolated to report.

A post later (there on phoenix rising), I did mention the main nutrients, which did show surprising isolated effects. But neither of them would have been able to cause the strong synergy for such improbable remissions, as from PAD, COPD or PEMs.



Despite my stunning success with vitamin C, I never succeeded to enthuse anyone about its high dose applications with active viral infections: http://www.doctoryourself.com/titration.html - it seems just too otherworldly and inconvenient for most. To dose so many grams down to every 20 minutes, for overcoming viral infections. But it would work in most cases, once the aversion to ingest so much of an acidic powder during 1 day overcome. Thought, I should mention anyway.

 

[Carrie Naturalway]

Sorry, I didn't realize you had answered, I expected to get an email notifying me.

Regarding the effects of the sun, yes, and probably we haven't discovered many of the benefits. I've been thinking about nitric oxide. I didn't know about it's effects on neurotransmitters, that's interesting.

That's a shame about all those infections damaging your organs. Ah yes, the late 30's, that was the time I started paying too. That's when a lot of people first get ME/CFS. Even the flu can be damaging.

The Ayurvedic approach is interesting. I knew about synergistic effects and I also like adaptogenic herbs but I didn't know about low dosing other than with homeopathy. I often use homeopathic remedies to help me sleep and I got one with higher amounts of the substances and it didn't work. I went back to the one with the lower amounts and it worked. I find that incredibly interesting. It has a lot of naysayers because the concept doesn't make sense. Yet it works. So I will definitely look into that idea with herbs. I like Ayurveda, I just try to avoid herbs from India since they are often contaminated with heavy metals.Also, I'm looking into TCM, Traditional Chinese Medicine and am going to try their formulation for slow moving blood when winter comes. Of course, herbs from China are also contaminated with heavy metals. So are the U.S. crop lands, for that matter, so what to do. I have a problem with heavy metals, having been mercury poisoned from, I assume, a series of flu shots in the late 1990's to early 2000's, and a mercury filling that was taken out around that same time. I don't have a good detox system so it also may have been accumulating for years.

Sometimes I have a noticeable effect with individual substances, it's true, and I used to experiment but I take so many things now I don't always know what is working. I was recently taking nattokinase, turmeric and bromelin and felt good but I can't say for sure because m
I started taking them at the same time that I normally start to feel good in the summer.

Oh I'm very enthused about high dose Vitamin C. I have to take it every day, twice a day anyway, and when I'm sick I take it to bowel tolerance. Been doing that for years. From the article you referenced: "At least 80% of adult patients will tolerate 10 to 15 grams of ascorbic acid fine crystals in 1/2 cup water divided into 4 doses per 24 hours without having diarrhea." Yes, that's what I do. The doctor who wrote the article talks about The 100 Gram Cold but I have never taken that much! Funny enough I am getting over a cold right now. You never saw a person who takes more supplements and herbs when they have a virus than me! Every few hours I take a lot of things including a lot of C. This time I was mostly over it in 5 days. If I don't take all those things I will have it for 2 weeks.

 

[Carrie Naturalway]

I did try a supplement blend of Nattokinase and Serrapeptase in hopes it might help. I decided to discontinue after about three weeks when I noticed an unexpected a bruise on one of my palms.

That must mean your blood is thin enough so you don't need to thin it. I noticed that when I cut my finger it would only get a drop of dark red blood. In the winter the tips of my fingers get white and numb from being even a little cold. After the nattokinase I cut my finger (I'm clumsy, lol), and it bled a good bit, like it used to, normally, and the blood was a brighter red.

 

[Carrie Naturalway]

I haven’t tried it yet, but I recently read about strengthening the soleus (calf) muscle to improve blood circulation plus many other benefits.

Thanks for that. I was doing that but kind of dropped off. After years of trying and doing sooo many things you get tired, right? I will start doing it again.

 

[Carrie Naturalway]

I generally get worse in the winter also. Have you ever heard of CIRS (aka "mold illness")?

Some online personalities in the community have borrowed the phrase "November effect" from the financial sector to describe your experience. CIRS patients tend to get worse over the winter because there's usually less air exchanged between inside and outside (windows staying closed), and because the greater amounts of condensation within outside-facing walls causes more microbial activity, which worsens symptoms.

If you are interested in learning more about CIRS, I'd recommend visiting Dr. Richie Shoemaker's website. It's a bit dated, but he's the best authority on the condition.

Well that is super interesting, thanks!! I definitely suffer from some type of November affect. I never imagined mold in the wintertime! I have read about and think about mold. My husband assures me that we do not have mold in our house. Or in our prior house. We have lived in this house 2 years and I am had the November effect in both houses except that in this house my slight congestion problem is gone. Whether it's the house or not, I don't know, but there's less dust in the air in this house. Both houses have old windows so I'm going to check if there's a condensation issue in the winter, that is good to know. The idea of running a dehumidifier to keep humidity below 50% ? That's a tough one. We both do better with high humidity and my husband has a dry eye issue, however, oddly enough, he's at an eye consultation today for cataracts which he will need an operation for. Maybe that will take care of the dry eyes. He does have sinus issues and has to fight sinus infections tooth and nail. So now I have several things to do and observe this winter! I'm determined to get to the bottom of this winter effect.

 

[pamojja]

I copy the Ayurvedic approach, where a combination of low dosed mutually supportive extracts show greater synergistic effects, than high-doses of individual herbs.

I often use homeopathic remedies to help me sleep and I got one with higher amounts of the substances and it didn't work. I went back to the one with the lower amounts and it worked. I find that incredibly interesting. It has a lot of naysayers because the concept doesn't make sense. Yet it works.

If something works, one of course uses it. None can convince otherwise, especially with the low risk of contamination. as in homeopathies.

Though Ayurveda, Homeopathy, and Tibetan medicine (the only form of a kind of TCM practitioner I had experience with) seem similar to me, in that in acute conditions they do take their time to help (might be due to the kind of condition experienced; for example psoriasis), otherwise Homeopathy differs, in that some potentiations don't contain any actual remedy molecules anymore.

Where the concept of synergy in Ayurveda and TCM combines low doses of herbs with similar effects, which supposedly adds up to a more robust effect, taking off the edge of potential side effects in high dose single-herb remedy.

I like Ayurveda, I just try to avoid herbs from India since they are often contaminated with heavy metals.Also, I'm looking into TCM, Traditional Chinese Medicine and am going to try their formulation for slow moving blood when winter comes. Of course, herbs from China are also contaminated with heavy metals. So are the U.S. crop lands, for that matter, so what to do.

My solution to this serious problem, were yearly hair-tissue-mineral analysis. Which do have the disadvantage of not being able to show very old, stored away in other body tissues, heavy metals. But still would show ongoing exposure to heavy metals, for example from supplemented Indian or Chinese herbs. And any other unknown sources.

 

[Carrie Naturalway]

If something works, one of course uses it. None can convince otherwise, especially with the low risk of contamination. as in homeopathies.

Though Ayurveda, Homeopathy, and Tibetan medicine (the only form of a kind of TCM practitioner I had experience with) seem similar to me, in that in acute conditions they do take their time to help (might be due to the kind of condition experienced; for example psoriasis), otherwise Homeopathy differs, in that some potentiations don't contain any actual remedy molecules anymore.

Where the concept of synergy in Ayurveda and TCM combines low doses of herbs with similar effects, which supposedly adds up to a more robust effect, taking off the edge of potential side effects in high dose single-herb remedy.

Yes, I weigh the benefits of taking the substance over the risk of contamination and hope that since I've (hopefully) detoxed most of the mercury and (hopefully) have improved my methylation cycle, and am better at staying on top of continual support and detox the benefits will outweight the risks. There are some supplement brands from India that are organic and test for heavy metals.

I am fascinated with Ayurveda especially after seeing a documentary about these special type of practioners in India that use a type of neck manipulation to cure all sorts of ailments, and it's not chiropracty. An effort was made by the British colonizers to kill them all, so only a few escaped, because of the power they had-they can paralyze or kill someone easily if they wanted to. Also in that documentary was a wizened old Ayurvedic Practioner who, who knows, may have been 110 years old, opening up these ancient ayurvedic manuscripts and treating people. I wanted to get on a plane right then and fly over to see him!

Funny, under the Ayurvedic system my dosha is Vata. I am such a Vata to the extreme degree that I'm an imbalanced Vata and the characteristics of imbalanced Vata are thinness, airiness, dryness, fatigue, restlessness, irregular nerve function, poor circulation, cold extremities, gut and sleep issues. So here I am back to the circulation issue. And Vatas are supposed to eat warm, cooked, moist foods and I have a tendency to eat cold, raw, dry foods like yogurt and fruit for breakfast and salads with my dinner even in winter. My husband makes fun of how I eat leftovers without warming them up, which I need to quit doing. I feel cold after a yogurt and fruit breakfast even in summer! So here's another thing that relates to my issues that I need to fix and add to my list of things to change in the winter.

Sometimes you wonder which mistakes you make are a result of an imbalance that also causes you to be backwards or opposite in what your imbalanced self tells you is right. For example, my naturopath told me I was extremely low in sodium and then asked if were salt averse. Yes, I said, I don't like salt and avoid anything with salt in it and never salt my food. So I hated the thing I desperately needed. I've seen this weird phenomenon in other areas. It may also be what's happening some times with some people who need sunlight but when they go sunbathing the sun initially makes them feel terrible. Is there a name for this phenomenon?

My solution to this serious problem, were yearly hair-tissue-mineral analysis. Which do have the disadvantage of not being able to show very old, stored away in other body tissues, heavy metals. But still would show ongoing exposure to heavy metals, for example from supplemented Indian or Chinese herbs. And any other unknown sources.

That's a good idea. Though when I was seeing a naturopath once, I had several hair tests that showed low levels of mercury. But then I had a sudden, unexpected, serious mercury detox, so the hair test didn't show just how much mercury I had. Hair tests don't always pick up inorganic mercury which may be what I had, maybe from two mercury fillings I had since I was a child that over the years built up in my system which doesn't detox well, and who knows from what other source(s). Vegetables and herbs can contain a mix of both organic and inorganic mercury; inorganic mercury occurs from contamination of soil and water from environmental pollution.

 

[TJ_Fitz]

Well that is super interesting, thanks!! I definitely suffer from some type of November affect. I never imagined mold in the wintertime! I have read about and think about mold. My husband assures me that we do not have mold in our house. Or in our prior house. We have lived in this house 2 years and I am had the November effect in both houses except that in this house my slight congestion problem is gone. Whether it's the house or not, I don't know, but there's less dust in the air in this house. Both houses have old windows so I'm going to check if there's a condensation issue in the winter, that is good to know. The idea of running a dehumidifier to keep humidity below 50% ? That's a tough one. We both do better with high humidity and my husband has a dry eye issue, however, oddly enough, he's at an eye consultation today for cataracts which he will need an operation for. Maybe that will take care of the dry eyes. He does have sinus issues and has to fight sinus infections tooth and nail. So now I have several things to do and observe this winter! I'm determined to get to the bottom of this winter effect.

I put "mold illness" in quotes because that's how it's commonly known, but actinobacteria are actually the bigger culprit in CIRS. The varieties of actinobacteria that are to blame grow on our skin, and can apparently proliferate in water damaged environments within a matter of hours.

Before you do anything else, you need to find out if you have CIRS. There are lab tests you need to do. Some places offer a CIRS lab panel that you can order for yourself without needing your doctor to sign off on it. There are some resources on this page:
What is Mold Illness?

 

[pamojja]

My solution to this serious problem, were yearly hair-tissue-mineral analysis. Which do have the disadvantage of not being able to show very old, stored away in other body tissues, heavy metals. But still would show ongoing exposure to heavy metals, for example from supplemented Indian or Chinese herbs. And any other unknown sources.

I had several hair tests that showed low levels of mercury. But then I had a sudden, unexpected, serious mercury detox, so the hair test didn't show just how much mercury I had. Hair tests don't always pick up inorganic mercury which may be what I had, maybe from two mercury fillings I had since I was a child that over the years built up in my system which doesn't detox well, and who knows from what other source(s).

Maybe I worded it poorly, but that is exactly what I meant. HTMA doesn't show since years stored away heavy metals in other tissue, but the latest grown inch of hair tissue does have traces of heavy metals circulating from recent exposures, like the last 3 months. Everything breathed, drunk or consumed, like herbs from India.

Curios, during the 8 years I did yearly HTMAs, the only heavy metal really high was for 2 years uranium, short after the Fukushima accident.

Hair tests don't always pick up inorganic mercury which may be what I had, maybe from two mercury fillings I had since I was a child

That potion of mercury isn't circulating since a long time, therefore usually doesn't get close to growing hair. In my understanding that is the reason alone, why HTMA doesn't detect long past inorganic mercury. Or do you have other sources for this distinction between organic and inorganic mercury in HTMAs?

But then I had a sudden, unexpected, serious mercury detox, so the hair test didn't show just how much mercury I had.

Maybe because the test hair wasn't growing within the detox timeframe, when released old mercury was circulating? Did you use a regular blood test detecting the mercury detox?

 

[Carrie Naturalway]

I put "mold illness" in quotes because that's how it's commonly known, but actinobacteria are actually the bigger culprit in CIRS. The varieties of actinobacteria that are to blame grow on our skin, and can apparently proliferate in water damaged environments within a matter of hours.

Before you do anything else, you need to find out if you have CIRS. There are lab tests you need to do. Some places offer a CIRS lab panel that you can order for yourself without needing your doctor to sign off on it. There are some resources on this page:
What is Mold Illness?

Interesting, I didn't know about actinobacteria. I looked into CIRS a bit and I don't really have the symptoms other than where they cross over with ME CFS and even they are mild. I did sooo many things over the years that are similar to the treatment for CIRS so if I did have it it probably would have been treated. But thanks for the information. You still never know, I'll keep it on the back burner.