Can you recommend some Lecithin for Liposome creation?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Carl#1, Jul 12, 2019.

  1. Carl#1

    Carl#1 Member

    Can anyone offer any sources for Soya Lecithin powder in the UK/Europe? I would prefer organic lecithin because most soya lecithin is extracted using hexane which anyone with CFS does not need. I would also like it to be de-oiled and preferably none GM Soya lecithin powder rather than granules at the lowest price I can find. I want it for use when preparing liposomes such as essential oils for fighting lyme and CFS. De-oiled reduces the high polyunsaturated fats which are present in soya and sunflower oil.

    Polyunsaturated fats tend to cause degradation of liposomes due to their tendency to oxidize. This can make the liposomes degrade fairly quickly, especially if not kept at a low temperature such as a fridge.

    I know where I need to attack but finding something which works is proving very difficult. Efflux Pump Inhibitors would help but I can only guess the bacteria species which makes it extremely difficult. Lyme is making everything extremely difficult because previous methods of managing CFS which worked well prior to becoming infected by the Lyme bacteria are far less effective.

    The lecithin that I know of:
    This one from Minerals and Water is the best price that I can find but they offer very little information apart from mentioning de-oiled in the title but not anywhere else. Their website has been none working for long periods since they moved addresses. It has just started working and they still have not fixed the access problems with the soya lecithin listing. I told them about this about a month ago! The whole website has been showing "under maintenance" for around 2 months with some brief periods where it could be accessed but was still not fully working. The link is to their eBay listing (£9.79) because the link on their website cannot be accessed. On their website it is £7.64 +delivery.
    The only link that will work to mineralsandwater lecithin products
    https://www.minerals-water.co.uk/index.php?route=product/search&search=soya lecithin&sub_category=true&description=true

    £12.50 for 500g on eBay which does claim to be none GMO but no mention of being de-oiled or hexane free.
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Soya-Lecithin-Powder-Non-GMO-500g-Soy-Lecithin-12-50/173596868663
    Other options on eBay.co.uk are around £28.95 delivered for 1 Kg.
    http://www.meridianstar.co.uk/Soya-Lecithin.html which costs £29.95 inc delivery for 1 Kg. Very little information and no mention of being de-oiled or none GM.
    The poor availability and inadequate listings means that I have had to look towards Germany but sadly their listings are no better and prices are also very high.
    2 x 1 Kg for €36.90 plus delivery from Germany (€11.76)
    https://buxtrade.de/en/food-additives/soja-lecithin-pulver-2x-1-kg
    €19.90 none GM plus delivery from Germany which I cannot find as there is no available listing for the UK
    https://www.naturprodukte-mv.de/Rei...-1000-g-Sojalecithin-Soja-Lecithin-Pulver-1kg

    https://www.amritanutrition.co.uk/phosphatidylcholine-powder-300g
    This is £47.00 for 300 grams and no mention of being hexane free. It does have 40% PC content which is a very high %

    I like the following manufacturer's product but the price is jaw dropping :greedy: @ €78.00 + delivery, it is also available on Amazon for £83.00 + £9.50 delivery. It does have quite a high Phosphatidylcholine [PC] content of 29% which is quite high. Soya lecithin PC content tends to be around 22-23%. However nearly £100 for only 1.2 Kg of lecithin is far more than I wanted to pay!
    https://www.ivovital.com/buy-lecithin-shop/organic-soya-lecithin/

    One last one which I have no price or supplier for is the lecithin by Lecico Germany. The specification looks like it might be what I want but the price is unknown. I do not know how the price compares to the ivovital brand.
    LECICO P 900 Organic looks like the one which I would like. The company is part of the Avril group if that means anything to anyone.
    http://lecico.de/en/products/organic-lecithin/soya-organic-lecithin

    Therefore can anyone make any recommendations? Do you know of any websites selling Soya Lecithin within Europe? Do you know of any supplier for Lecico lecithin?
     
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  2. Carl#1

    Carl#1 Member

    No help on this so I had to get something ordered. I went for the ivovital.com Sunflower lecithin because it is hexane free, de-oiled and the PC content is 27%, which is slightly below the organic soya lecithin 29% but at a substantially lower, but not that low, price of €54 + €12 delivery. That compares to €78 for the organic soya lecithin.

    I ordered 3 days back on the 15th but I do not have any updates. They claim 8 to 10 days shipping time but I cannot even see that it has been despatched yet! I do not know whether it is 8 to 10 days for delivery or whether that is 8 -10 days until they ship it plus shipping time to the UK.

    It turns out that Lecico brand does mention, buried in their contact page, that ivovital does market their products in small quantities. The ivovital website does not make it very clear how the products that they sell correspond with the products on the Leciico website.

    It does seem that the majority of lecithin is de-oiled because it needs to be so that it mixes with water because it would not mix well if it contained all the soya/sunflower oils.

    I found a decent article which explains many of the terms:
    https://foodwrite.co.uk/lecithin-power/

    I think that I am going to have to order some other lecithin for general usage. I mix it with milk thistle extract to enhance it's bioavailability. I am almost out of it and I do not think what I have will last until I receive the ordered lecithin. I hoped to avoid hexane but for cost reasons I do not think that is possible.
     
  3. Carl#1

    Carl#1 Member

    The Ivovital lecithin turned up today, just over 4 days after ordering so not too bad. The delivery information and updates are really terrible though. No tracking and I had no idea that it was going to turn up today, fortunately I was in and not out partying or something. lol
     
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