CFS and bone health

[Tlatoani]

Hey all,

I have a question about post viral CFS and bone health. Is it known that CFS decreases bone density? Would that also affect the mandibular aka jaw bones?

regards

 

[Tlatoani]

Anyone?

 

[Tlatoani]

I asked this because of potential negative effect of oxidative stress to the bones ? any experiences?

 

[Merida]

I do not know the research on CFS and bone health, but many in our support group had osteopenia, including me. PremPro ( hormone supplement ) reversed my bone loss, but I stopped it several years ago due to concerns about cancers.
I have multiple calcified phleboliths ( calcium phosphate deposits) in my abdomen and have often wondered why my body would be sucking calcium out of my bones and redepositing it in my abdomen. Is this to help balance blood pH ? My parathyroid function is normal, but that is something people may want to check.

 

[Merida]

Oh, the jaw. Jaw pain and misalignment is the result of a cranial /upper neck issue. And the cranial/neck problem can result from sacral/pelvic dysfunctions. There are little discs between the jaw bones and sides of the skull. These discs can slip forward or off to the inside of the jaw. The real expert on this is a dentist in Virginia - Dr. Brendan Stack. Check out his videos on You Tube. He is close to 80 now, a university trained specialist on the jaw and its function.

 

[Tammy7]

Silica one of the best things for bone health. Orgono G5 Siliplant a superb supplement.

 

[Sarah R.]

I do not know the research on CFS and bone health, but many in our support group had osteopenia, including me. PremPro ( hormone supplement ) reversed my bone loss, but I stopped it several years ago due to concerns about cancers.
I have multiple calcified phleboliths ( calcium phosphate deposits) in my abdomen and have often wondered why my body would be sucking calcium out of my bones and redepositing it in my abdomen. Is this to help balance blood pH ? My parathyroid function is normal, but that is something people may want to check.

@Merida, my doctor said I need to take Vitamin K2 or MK-7 in order for calcium to be directed to my bones and not to other places in my body. He also strongly sugggested that I not take any vitamins or supplements with calcium in them.

 

[jaminhealth]

I don't deal with CFS but have my issues. I don't take calcium supplements per se. Eat greens as best I can and some cheese.

Magnesium is major necessary and D3 and K2. I've been working this issue for many yrs. and feel the doctors and others are so misguided on taking calcium and not going to the magnesium deficiency. I could go on and on but throwing this out.

The only two mammograms I had in my early 50's showed calcifications and put that worry in my mind and I'm sure many many women.

No mamms since then and that's about 25 yrs ago.

 

[Sarah R.]

I don't deal with CFS but have my issues. I don't take calcium supplements per se. Eat greens as best I can and some cheese.

Magnesium is major necessary and D3 and K2. I've been working this issue for many yrs. and feel the doctors and others are so misguided on taking calcium and not going to the magnesium deficiency. I could go on and on but throwing this out.

The only two mammograms I had in my early 50's showed calcifications and put that worry in my mind and I'm sure many many women.

No mamms since then and that's about 25 yrs ago.

Yes, I take a whole bunch of magnesium every day, as well as D3 and K2. My doc isn't recommending mammograms for me either. I'm a little nervous about that, but I'm also glad not to have to have them. I know my sister and many women friends who have gone through untold angst and pain over things that didn't turn out to be cancer. Of course, on the other hand, I have relatives and friends who have had breast cancer that was discovered by mammogram. Hard to know what to do.

 

[jaminhealth]

Those mamms do cause so much angst and fear in women and I'm glad to be rid of that. Those machines are barbaric and I wouldn't go near one again, of course, I'm 79 and doing good.

Iodine is important for breast health. I can't talk about this enough and you will find many sites on the importance of iodine for ALL body tissues and breasts for sure...Iodine Iodine Iodine....I take Iosol drops 2-3 drops in water 1/4 glass daily. When I've missed the drops, I could end up with breast pains.

 

[Forebearance]

Thermograms are great monitors for breast cancer. They are easy and painless. But they aren't covered by insurance, as far as my experience goes. They miss a few cancers, just like mammograms do, but the kind that thermograms miss are the cold ones, which are the slow growing ones.

I also take calcium lactate, Bone Up by Jarrow, magnesium and iodine. Silica has turned out to also be very important for me. I have tried several brands that made the nerves in my feet sting (BioSil, Super Silica, Angstrom Minerals). I would guess there might have been some mold in the factories where they are made.

But a brand that works for me is called Eidon liquid ionic minerals silica.
The kinds made from horsetail were also okay, but I am already taking three herbs so I didn't want to add a fourth one.

It could be that silica is so helpful to me because it is also a chelator of heavy metals. It seems to make my thyroid happy and to just generally be really good for me. It seems to help my teeth, skin, fingernails, hair.

If anyone with CFS has had dental problems, I would encourage you to try adding some slicia in supplement form. It could save your teeth!

 

[jaminhealth]

On dental hygine, I started using Coconut Oil toothpaste a couple yrs ago at least, and some times add a couple tsps of Now Foods new coconut oil toothpaste to mine. I make my own CO toothpaste and just love the greatness of this TP.

I've cut WAY BACk on carbs/sugars and have not gone to a dentist in over 6 yrs. The CO toothpaste does a great job and with my grape seed extract my dental health is good, but I've had my share of dental work years back.

Hope you are well enough. I struggle with a knee full of arthritis, long story, but so fear knee replacement....had a hip replacement in 2010 and left with complications... jam

 

[Forebearance]

Thanks for the tip, Jam! I haven't tried coconut oil toothpaste. I was just considering trying some non-flouride toothpaste. Best wishes with your knee problems.

 

[jaminhealth]

Thanks for the tip, Jam! I haven't tried coconut oil toothpaste. I was just considering trying some non-flouride toothpaste. Best wishes with your knee problems.

I've been in the anti fluoride battle for years. It's really bad stuff for ingestion. Who knows what it's doing in our insides. If you don't feel like making your own TP, I found this product a month ago and combine it with my homemade stuff, but could easily use it alone.

https://www.nowfoods.com/beauty-health/xyliwhite-coconut-oil-toothpaste-gel

 

[Forebearance]

Thank you so much, Jam!