Experiences of people with ME/CFS with COVID-19

jaminhealth

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Fore, thinking about you and what a time you've had of it...I believe you said you take all the immune system supports but still was hit.

Heard a story on the radio a little while ago and this man spent 3 months in hospital, on ventilator and now home in hospital bed...migrant worker and no insurance etc...what a time some have had and some none at all....j
 

Forebearance

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Note: If you take quercitin, you HAVE to take zinc with it. Apparently when it boosts your immune system function, the process uses up a lot of zinc.

I got too low on zinc and my gums became sore and tender. That's your warning sign.
 

Kerfuffle

Active Member
Note: If you take quercitin, you HAVE to take zinc with it. Apparently when it boosts your immune system function, the process uses up a lot of zinc.

I got too low on zinc and my gums became sore and tender. That's your warning sign.
Oh thats why---it because of zinc. I will take zinc then. Thank you.
 

Forebearance

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Well, I'm sorry to say that I have ended up having COVID-19 four times since March. I am counting each time the symptoms started over with Day 1 symptoms as a new round of it.

It's impossible to say if it has been a reactivation of the virus or a re-exposure to it while I was out doing errands. Each time the course of the illness was milder and shorter.

3-4 weeks after the fourth round of it, I experienced a sudden onset of really bad muscle and joint pain. It seems like this must be what fibromyalgia is like. It has been preventing me from sleeping. Finally I tried taking some more Lauricidin and that helped. So I am blaming the virus for these symptoms.

But I was tested in December and it was negative for COVID, so I must not be contagious any more.

After I began taking Lauricidin again, the virus fought back. It caused stinging red eyelids and stinging toes again. It really feels like this virus is trying to find a way to kill me! It has been terrifying because I don't know what is going to happen next.
 

Nethcap

Member
I have been around a covid patient allot/daily a few months ago without protection playing russian roulette and for some reason it had no effect whatsoever while 2 other people lost their sense of smell after visiting the person. Kinda strange
 

jaminhealth

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You are lucky or have a strong immune system and good for you. I would not kiss or hug a person with covid and keep a distance but I don't live in fear of it all. Vit C, Vit D, Zinc, Grape Seed Extract are my saviors.
 

Forebearance

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I ended up getting post Covid sequelae, aka Long Covid, then had a fifth bout of acute Covid on top of it, then finally got the J&J vaccine and now it seems to be helping me feel better. Fingers crossed that it will help me to defeat Covid entirely.

I'd like to get back to where I was pre-Covid.
 

max_yazhbin

Member
I have a pre-existing condition, multiple chemical sensitivities, which upon more recent testing looks to be caused by an insufficiency of the appropriate amino acids as well as mercury poisoning which allowed candida, SIBO, H. pylori, and ulcers to flourish. I was worried for a bit when the coronavirus came to the US. I thought I had it but then as it turned out it was just the flu because when I did get it for the first time, my lung capacity was reduced to half of what it was normally, when I breathed my lungs felt like I was breathing against something surrounding them. I tried sleeping and drinking water more than usual, but that didn't help. I tried osha root tea thinking that this virus may be like influenza and thus the osha root should help, it had no effect. I tried japanese knotweed extract which had no effect. I tried some berberines but that didnt work either, it was a pill form, not a natural source such as oregon grape root or goldenseal. Then I tried gumweed leaf tea as I knew it was useful for lung viral infections and that did work. Within an hour of drinking gumweed leaf tea, my breathing capacity returned back to normal, but then an hour after that my eyes felt like they were burning and I went to sleep. Over the next two days, I drank the tea until it had no effect and I was almost back to normal. A day after that I was back to normal.

Then 3 weeks after the first infection recovery, I got infected again, this time I could only take quarter breaths. This time, I added zinc pills to my gumweed leaf tea treatment and the same thing happened whereby my breathing returned back to normal an hour after drinking the tea and an hour after that my eyes felt like they were burning. I slept over 2 days and took 100mg of zinc glycinate daily (easily found at your local drug store) and I returned back to normal and the treatment had no effect.

The interesting thing with gumweed leaf tea is that the tea tastes disgusting if you had too much, I guess it is the body's way of telling you you had enough selenium which gumweed is known to concentrate ~500x compared to the soil thus it is hard to overdose as compared to selenium pills. My blood tests show I have higher than normal amounts of zinc and selenium which could explain also what effect gumweed is having whereby the quercitin and other compounds are zinc ionophores. John Mionczynski thinks gumweed works on lung viral infections because the immune system is rate limited by protein synthesis and thus supplementing with a necessary precursor of selenium in this disease state assists the body in fighting the infection. Remember this is anecdotal and that is why I applied for a wikimedia grant but never heard back from them.

If you did want to try gumweed leaf tea make sure to get the actual dried leaf, it is not commercialized and thus if you find it then it is likely not to be devoid of nutrients but dont get tincture or already prepared mixtures having gumweed, those have a tendency to be watered down, scams, or oxidized/denatured. I found some on etsy and it is nothing like the gumweed I used. Zinc is pretty universal and not likely to be done incorrectly yet don't expect it to work on its own.

I couldnt get the PCR test as the doctor said the results were unreliable. I did get the antibody test but it was 4 months after my last bought with the illness and it came back negative which is typical after 8 weeks from getting over the illness and I got it from a different doctor that I pay out of pocket rather than going through insurance.

I should clarify. I had the flu back in January of 2020, I thought it was covid but then figured out it was the flu later when I actually got covid, I thought in my case that covid affected me like the flu. In March 2020, I got covid at least according to the symptoms, in this case only being able to take half breaths and realized the January 2020 illness was just a flu and that what I experience in March 2020 was the real deal of covid. 3 weeks later, I got covid again, just much quickly and severely.
 

Forebearance

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I wanted to add a note to this thread. I ended up discovering that my apartment was developing a mold issue. Like the frog in slowly heating water, I didn't notice it happening. When I finally noticed and moved out, my Long COVID improved immensely. I am almost back to where I was before it.
 

jaminhealth

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I wanted to add a note to this thread. I ended up discovering that my apartment was developing a mold issue. Like the frog in slowly heating water, I didn't notice it happening. When I finally noticed and moved out, my Long COVID improved immensely. I am almost back to where I was before it.

Thanks for your story Fore...

I have a friend who for years has lived in CA, all her life and she's moving to Texas to be closer to sons, perhaps she will get relief on this ME issue....
 

Forebearance

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I hope so, Jam!
Unfortunately, Texas doesn't have the best outdoor air quality, so that might be a factor. But maybe she can find somewhere that is at least better than where she was living in CA.
 

jaminhealth

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I hope so, Jam!
Unfortunately, Texas doesn't have the best outdoor air quality, so that might be a factor. But maybe she can find somewhere that is at least better than where she was living in CA.

Well she will find out, she is moving there to be near sons and grandkids...
 

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