incredible improvement with helminthic treatment

Discussion in 'Treatment' started by rebar, Jan 31, 2017.

  1. rebar

    rebar Active Member

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  2. Cort

    Cort Founder of Health Rising and Phoenix Rising Staff Member


    That is really something.

    So many different ways people have been helped.

  3. Cort

    Cort Founder of Health Rising and Phoenix Rising Staff Member

    The gut is really big for some people.....(maybe everyone ?)
  4. Remy

    Remy Administrator

    I'm still experimenting with Dr Baker's HDC. It's important to note that his HDC are different than Biome Restoration and a smaller dose is required.

    I personally feel more comfortable with the HDC because they can't leave the gut.
  5. Sue Stevenson

    Sue Stevenson Active Member

    Interesting what Hip wrote on that page re helmimthic therapy and infections :

    It looks like in the case of Necator americanus, the immunomodulation it produces is more complex than just a simple Th1 to Th2 shift.​

    This paperfound that a protein from Necator americanus binds to human natural killer cells, resulting in interferon gamma production. Interferon gamma is a Th1 cytokine that fights viruses and intracellular infections.​

    The paper says:​

    Descriptions of cytokine profiles from human PBMCs stimulated with Necator adult worm Ag have been reported only recently. These studies demonstrated a mixed anti- and proinflammatory response, characterized by IL-5, IL-10, as well as IFN-γ and IL-12.
    This is the first report of a pathogen protein that binds exclusively to NK cells, and the first report of a nematode-derived product that induces abundant levels of cytokines from NK cells.​

    Note Th1 cytokines: IFN-γ, IL-12 and IL-2; Th2 cytokines: IL-4 and IL-10.​

    So quite possibly, Necator americanus's induction of interferon gamma in NK cells may help fight off the chronic viral infections associated with ME/CFS.​

    Dr Chia's interferon alpha and interferon gamma combined therapy was pretty successful in bringing some ME/CFS patients into full remission (though all relapsed several months after the end of this course of interferon therapy). So with Necator americanus, you may perhaps in effect be getting ongoing interferon gamma therapy to fight your viruses, and at a knock down price.​

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  6. Luke S

    Luke S New Member

    Not dead yet!, voner and Remy like this.