The Truth About Covid 19

jaminhealth

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Imagine this happening in the US:

Sadly this happens a lot, covid or not, plenty live far from hospitals and don't get to a hospital in time to hopefully be saved.

A big factor to work to keep oneself in good healthy and at a lower weight. I'm not discounting this death, but he did finally get to a hospital and it was too late, some never made it to a hospital.


And I just posted a new video on the deception of the vaccination links. View it, so much is kept from the people, so so much. Vaccines can't be pushed thru, approval takes years. Video by expert on vaccines, Dr. Judy Mikovits.
 

jaminhealth

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This seems rather appropriate for this discussion on how hospitals do their marketing to fill up hospitals. What a corrupt world more and more.

 

Learner

Active Member
@jaminhealth

There are many places on the web for the brand of misinformation and dystopia you are sharing.

The purpose of this forum is to help patients with ME/CFS, fibromyalgia, and related diseases. Many of these patients are vulnerable, and at higher risk of dying if they contract COVID. Your continued encouragement for behaviors that have been shown to increase transmission of COVID and the seriousness of disease can result in harm to members here. The case rates of COVID in states with low mask wearing rates and vaccination speak for themselves.

It is very sad that you participate in a forum where you wish to promote harm to the participants.

Many of us do practice habits which are healthy and are at a low to normal BMI, yet we are still sick, through no fault of our own.

Have you no empathy or conscience?
 
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pamojja

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Have you no empathy or conscience?
Dear Learner,

how much I wished you're right, and I too had no conscience or empathy!

I even pray every day in hope to turn out death wrong, but prefer frying in hell forever - instead what just logical reasoning fortells. However:

https://www.brighteon.com/ff7c79ce-367e-478d-aa74-76868f454e4b

..there is one official European webside monitoring excess-mortality in 29 regions of Europe. And truly sadly, it perfectly aligns with all the prophets (also Noah was denigrated as a conspiracy theorist before the rains started) there isn't any excess mortality at all already since April.

Rather 7 regions have exceptional unusual lower mortality! Only 2 regions are slightly raised (Belgium and Spain) - but very, very far at this point from anything usual flu-seasons would bring.

What is now markeded as the 4th wave of covid, in my country (Austria) was long ago just one, not more the strength as of moderately severe flu-seasons occuring in past decades.

If one takes the cutoff of a normal flu-season, as for example in Germany 2017 only, above the +20 mark in below chart: Out of 29 regions only 6 regions reached as high or above (consitent with moderately severy flu-seasons in past decades), during 1 short wave each. Only exception is tiny Belgium and the limited region England of GB with such short waves twice. Which leaves exactly 23 monitored regions with basically no unusual excess mortality, at least compared to periodic past moderately severe flu-seasons, during the whole of 1 1/2 years during this alleged pandemic.



However that may be, its definitely been over since April long before the majority was vaccinated.

Government officials babbling something about a 4th wave, and more dangerous variants - while there have been regionaly at the most 2 only, and now 5 months of lower than normal mortality in whole of Europe - must make everyone think twice what really malicious might be in store in the very near future.

Beside the unneccesary damage by the lock-down measurements far worse than the disease (a whole generation of kids traumatized).

But as I said, I pray every day that my logical reasoning turns out wrong. Actually would be easier for me to life in the toletarian world-government already manifest today, than seeing so many of my friends and relatives dying of ADE this fall.

I pray every day to be proven totally wrong very soon.
 

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Learner

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Dear Learner,

how much I wished you're right, and I too had no conscience or empathy!

I even pray every day in hope to turn out death wrong, but prefer frying in hell forever - instead what just logical reasoning fortells. However:

https://www.brighteon.com/ff7c79ce-367e-478d-aa74-76868f454e4b

..there is one official European webside monitoring excess-mortality in 29 regions of Europe. And truly sadly, it perfectly aligns with all the prophets (also Noah was denigrated as a conspiracy theorist before the rains started) there isn't any excess mortality at all already since April.

Rather 7 regions have exceptional unusual lower mortality! Only 2 regions are slightly raised (Belgium and Spain) - but very, very far at this point from anything usual flu-seasons would bring.

What is now markeded as the 4th wave of covid, in my country (Austria) was long ago just one, not more the strength as of moderately severe flu-seasons occuring in past decades.

If one takes the cutoff of a normal flu-season, as for example in Germany 2017 only, above the +20 mark in below chart: Out of 29 regions only 6 regions reached as high or above (consitent with moderately severy flu-seasons in past decades), during 1 short wave each. Only exception is tiny Belgium and the limited region England of GB with such short waves twice. Which leaves exactly 23 monitored regions with basically no unusual excess mortality, at least compared to periodic past moderately severe flu-seasons, during the whole of 1 1/2 years during this alleged pandemic.


However that may be, its definitely been over since April long before the majority was vaccinated.

Government officials babbling something about a 4th wave, and more dangerous variants - while there have been regionaly at the most 2 only, and now 5 months of lower than normal mortality in whole of Europe - must make everyone think twice what really malicious might be in store in the very near future.

Beside the unneccesary damage by the lock-down measurements far worse than the disease (a whole generation of kids traumatized).

But as I said, I pray every day that my logical reasoning turns out wrong. Actually would be easier for me to life in the toletarian world-government already manifest today, than seeing so many of my friends and relatives dying of ADE this fall.

I pray every day to be proven totally wrong very soon.
Seems that there are different sources of information. This research paper covered the same subject and came to different conclusions depending on what days and method were used.


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They also gave these reasons for inaccuracies no matter who counts the data:

'But these confirmed deaths figures may differ from the excess mortality figures, which better capture the total impact of the pandemic on deaths, for several reasons:
  • Some (but not all) countries only report COVID-19 deaths that occur in hospitals — people that die from the disease at home may not be recorded;
  • Some countries only report deaths for which a COVID-19 test has confirmed that a patient was infected with the virus — untested individuals may not be included;
  • Death reporting systems may be insufficient to accurately measure mortality — this is particularly true in poorer countries;
  • The pandemic may result in increased deaths from other causes for a number of reasons including weakened healthcare systems; fewer people seeking treatment for other health risks; or less available funding and treatment for other diseases (e.g. HIV/AIDS, malaria, tuberculosis);
  • The pandemic may also result in fewer deaths from other causes. For example, the mobility restrictions during the pandemic might lead to fewer deaths from road accidents. Or there might be fewer deaths from the flu because of interventions to stop the spread of COVID-19, or because COVID-19 now causes deaths that would have otherwise been caused by the flu.
...Unlike statistics on confirmed COVID-19 deaths — for which several organizations such as the WHO, ECDC, and Johns Hopkins University are collating data for all countries — there is no single source of data on excess mortality. And no data source will have data for all countries, because excess mortality statistics will only be available for a minority of countries.

This is a major problem for policymakers, researchers, and the general public that have a need to understand the ongoing pandemic."

For the US, this article discusses how COVID related deaths have been undercounted in many states,;

The other thing one could look at is new cases. These have been admittedly undercounted but there are patterns. California, which is the most populous state and Connecticut, which got hit early have been stricter on mask wearing and have higher vaccination rates than states like Texas and Florida, leading to lower relative rates since January when the vaccines became available and better rates once the Delta variant exploded. In particular, California would have been much worse without the masks and vaccines.
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