What Antioxidants Do You Use

Strike me lucky

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Oxidative stress and inflammation are high in cfsme. The best strategy i have read for supplements is to take a variety of them. They also have different individual effects such as mitochondrial effects. This is my list.
vit E mixed tocopherol 400iu bid
vit C 1000mg bid
n-acetyl-cysteine 1200mg bid
liopoic acid 600mg bid
These antioxidants i have taken well before i got cfsme. I was a gym junkie so took them to reduce oxidative stress involved in exercise and improve exercise recovery.

vit D 5000iu nightly
vit A 5000iu nightly
Coq10 400mg am
acetyl carnitine 500mg am
methylfolate 800mc am
resveratrol 200mg am (new for me)
Inosine 500 to 1000mg bid,

i take them mostly for general health and hope that it reduces the oxidative and inflammatory damage of cfsme which has been regularly found in research. So slowing down bodily damage.

some supps such as nac and lipoic acid i hope it helps protect liver function. Q10 and alcarnitine is for mitochondrial health. Inosine is to help improve immune function.

its probably over the top but for me these supps are mostly cheap and i look for specials and buy larger quantities.

what do others use for their antioxidant supplement program?
 

Who Me?

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My stuff

Vit E 400 x2
NAC 600 x 1 working up
Vit d 5000 iu x2
Coq10 100 x 1 working up to 2. 400 mgs at one time time kicked my ass
LCF have some have to add 2xday
Inosine 500 daily kicked my ass have to do every few days
resveratrol drugs me
Vit A have some guess I'll add it.

Damn you @Strike me lucky. I wanted to take less stuff not more!

I thought you were supposed to take B12 with methylfolate?
 

Strike me lucky

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I don't get methylation at all so I don't know about a B12 shot here and there. I do know B12 has something to do with how methylfolate works.

If we were cured we could take less. :p
I dont really get the methylation stuff either. I added methylfolate as some abx i use can affect folate levels eg bactrim.
 

Who Me?

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I dont really get the methylation stuff either. I added methylfolate as some abx i use can affect folate levels eg bactrim.
Well I'm just a dumb-ass. Going about my clueless way. I did have 23andMe done so I know I need it.

Time to dig through my reject drawer and try it again.
 

IrisRV

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My specialist recommended:
Fish oil 4000mg
Vit C 2000 mg
CoQ10 (Dosage has varied. I'm currently on the Take What Works for You protocol)

I also take a product called ORAC Energy Greens. I keep stopping it because I have no idea why it's helping and it has a lot of different things in it. I like to know what is helping and why. I've tried taking some of the individual ingredients, but it's not the same effect. When I quit taking it I start feeling worse so after a while I start it again. Maybe it's as simple as its high ORAC level. I can't recommend it because I haven't a clue why it helps. All I can say is I keep going back to it because it works for me.

Are methyl folate and vit D antioxidants? I take those, too.
 

Strike me lucky

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Folate b6 and another nutrient i can recall is used to lower homocysteine which is a risk factor in heart disease. I believe they work through their antioxidant effects.
 

Who Me?

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I know B's are very tricky. Too much of one can deplete another. It's really complicated. Beyond me.
 

IrisRV

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I use Jarrow's B-right as a general multi B in hopes of having a reasonably balanced combination of Bs and methyl folate. Whether is actually a good balance for me, I couldn't say. It has components my doctor says I need like methyl folate, methylcobalamin, and a B combo, so I go with it.
 

Who Me?

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I've heard of the Jarrow's B-right. I am sensitive to so many things that I bought all the B's separately and was adding them one at a time. I stopped for some reason, maybe trying to figure out why I was feeling crap at the time and never picked it up again.

But this has gotten me thinking I need to add MB12 again and see how I do. if it's an epic fail I'll try the Jarrow maybe.
 

weyland

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I was taking a peek at Dr. Naviaux's (new OMF advisory board member) published research and found this perspective really interesting:

Oxidative shielding or oxidative stress?

Naviaux RK1.
Abstract
In this review I report evidence that the mainstream field of oxidative damage biology has been running fast in the wrong direction for more than 50 years. Reactive oxygen species (ROS) and chronic oxidative changes in membrane lipids and proteins found in many chronic diseases are not the result of accidental damage. Instead, these changes are the result of a highly evolved, stereotyped, and protein-catalyzed "oxidative shielding" response that all eukaryotes adopt when placed in a chemically or microbially hostile environment. The machinery of oxidative shielding evolved from pathways of innate immunity designed to protect the cell from attack and limit the spread of infection. Both oxidative and reductive stress trigger oxidative shielding. In the cases in which it has been studied explicitly, functional and metabolic defects occur in the cell before the increase in ROS and oxidative changes. ROS are the response to disease, not the cause. Therefore, it is not the oxidative changes that should be targeted for therapy, but rather the metabolic conditions that create them. This fresh perspective is relevant to diseases that range from autism, type 1 diabetes, type 2 diabetes, cancer, heart disease, schizophrenia, Parkinson's disease, and Alzheimer disease. Research efforts need to be redirected. Oxidative shielding is protective and is a misguided target for therapy. Identification of the causal chemistry and environmental factors that trigger innate immunity and metabolic memory that initiate and sustain oxidative shielding is paramount for human health.

Basically, oxidative stress is a protective mechanism; a symptom not cause of disease. Go after the cause instead.
 

Veet

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I've added a variety of antioxidants over the past year. The ones that I continue to use include Gamma E, green tea, coffee, carrots, seed/nut mixture. Of the variety of things I used, including resveratrol, astaxanthin, French Melon (SOD), bilberry, dried organic acai has remained the most preferred.
 

Tammy7

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I think to some extent everything I take in my protocol is considered an antioxidant except maybe L-lysine? I take Cats Claw, Licorice rt, zinc, Spirulina, barley grass juice powder, zinc, vit. C and,B12................ I eat a LOT of wild blueberries, try to eat a lot of leafy greens..........I mix these in a smoothie right now because in the winter I just can't eat them by themselves. This protocol is to eradicate the EBV. I take CoQ10 here and there. I have added a LOT of fruit also because of the antioxidants.
 

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