Well, then there is the viral research for gypsy moth control. 'They' engineered a baculovirus to be sprayed on gypsy months. Not only did the virus kill the moths, but it caused them to climb up the tree, die,nand rain viral particles on the other moths.
Baculoviruses are in dsDNA viral group - same group as human Herpes viruses. Jim Slavich, a U.S. Forestry biologist, commented, " Who knew that a virus would be able to change the behavior of its host." Others have commented that it is a "clever pathogen."
And and the "hustling" may be even more complex than we can imagine.
I should move the next part of this to my CFS X Files thread. I was watching Ancient Aliens one night ( on plagues? Ha! ) and who should be interviewed but MY doctor here in L.A. Ian Lipkin had some brief comments on the same show! ( memory failing). So I asked MY doc about this- he is double board certified( internal med and infectious disease, prof at local big university here). Did he think we had been exposed to viruses that came from off planet?? The answer was "Yes."
Next visit, "well, was this exposure accidental or on purpose??" Answer,
"I don't know. I don't know." I begged for more info. He just would not comment further.
It is also important to appreciate that those of us who are sick share certainly personality traits. I led large support group 13 years - saw this over and over again. We tend to be caring, kind - even to our own detriment- have a generous 'soul.' Many have psychic type gifts and Strong intuitive capabilities. Often there are other special gifts that run in these families.
Have you heard what Robert Bigelow ( owner of Bigelow Aerospace - a NASA contractor) said in a 20/20 interview 2 weeks ago?
Please appreciate that I did not arrive 'here' easily. I began original research in high school ( 1960s)?in conjunction with the Univ. of Pittsburgh - the teratogenic effects of chlorpromazine. I did the whole project myself at my high school - won awards in county and state. Went on to get a B.Sc. In biology/ multiple honors, early career in clinical diagnostic microbio, and so much more. I believed in the scientific method.
And now what and 20 years of being disabled ? May All that is Good and Strong and Beautiful be with us as we travel this Road. May we be blessed with the insight to see What? How? Who?
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I don't have a problem with research of retroviruses into ME/CFS, but I don't think it will prove to be the cause.
If retroviruses are investigated, I don't want Mikovits anywhere near the research.
it wont as long as the research is funded paid and guided by thesame people that have being covering up and deniying me/cfs for decades..
this looks feel Retroviral and infectious disease from every alngle you look at it.
i would like to know whith what base you refer yourself like that to say you don't want mikovits any were near a retroviral research ??
contaminant???
come on that woman its fighting hard to bring this human mascre to light!! everything she say make 100% perfect sense feom every stand point, biology, cellular leven, immune, everything and everything fits to our body disfuntions what happen to most of us.
definitely this is the Result of an infectious disease, beyond any resanoble doubt, resulting in an immune deficiency.
when people hear immune deficiency they think of AIDS and people dying" mistake "
many people with hiv are heathy carriers that will never develope immune deficiency ( AIDS) why???
its not becouse the strain they have is diferent " its becouse their immune system is healthy and strong , their antiviral RnaseL antiviral is strong, exactly thesame thing happen to most of the population that get a virus like EBV, CMV, ,HSV1,2,VZS,HHV6...if your immune system is strong with strong RnaseL antiviral and healthy strong nk cell funtion ( CD56) is the answere... viral in signaling immune response them you have no problem, but if this part is impaired very much anything can cause me/cfs, not just me/cfs but other the diseases, mostly auto immune, neuro immune..this proof that you don't need HIV to develope an immune deficiency , if this part of your immune system is impaired defective the NK cells, the RnaseL antivirals thru a defective methyliation , and a low Cd56 funtion almost any virus can damage your cells, hhv6 can deplete cd4 lynphocytes just as much as hiv does, CMV, EBV.. once they enter the cell the all replicate un check, they pass to organs, to the peripheral nervous system. central nervous system causing all this inflamation that we see in me/cfs and all others neuro immune disease & auto immune disease, the inate immune system(nk cells cd56 bright) don't do the correct signaling so when the adaptive immune system kicks in to clear inflection already colonized in organs etc cause all this ineffective cytokine storm and all the inflamation.
This is the reason why the associate sooooo many pathogens to me/cfs but can not define one as the cause and still a multisytemic disease with out a single cause( the underlaying cause is the problem )
this is an infectious disease from whatever angle you look at it.
Im not sure if its Mikovits xmrv( mlv) related gamma retrovirus or a BLV delta Retrovirus or another Retrovirus.
but 100% this is a transmisible infectious disease most likely a Retrovitus.
como on make sense of what i just said and everything she is saying in her book, in her seminars, the world out there is listening to her, obviously not CDC, not FDA, but its more than clear to who this group of gov instituions represent and its not us, not sick, not the ill not science, they only back up the science that will make those elite groups more profit, she is risking her life, couse all that is against goverment is against big pharma , we all know what happen to people that threat to expouse this people and threat their profits.
who do you want close to the research ?? CDC, lipkin? nih?? the people that have denied and blind misslead is for decades???