Calming the Amygdala with sound -- BAUD device

Discussion in 'Stress Reduction, Pacing and Exercise' started by Forebearance, May 9, 2018.

  1. Forebearance

    Forebearance Well-Known Member

    I heard Dr. Frank Lawlis say something on the Dr. Phil show that intrigued me.
    Dr. Lawlis said that at his clinic in Texas he has "sound therapy" that can treat people with PTSD by healing the amygdala.

    So I did some looking around online and found it is apparently called a BAUD device. Here is an article written about it: http://www.pnpcenter.com/images/Veterans_PTSD_BAUD.pdf

    So has anyone with ME/CFS tried this kind of therapy? It sounds like it would do something similar to the amygdala calming programs that we have all heard of. I guess I would rather do some sound therapy than to meditate and chant affirmations for hours every day.

    Also, I have heard of a new therapy called NeuroStar that is supposed to heal the brains of people with depression and anxiety. It runs some magnetic pulses through the brain. I know most of us don't have major depression, but any time a therapy is mentioned that heals the brain, it piques my interest. It seems to be non-intrusive and non-drug. I wonder if it would do anything for us.
    Here's the website: httto://www.neurostar.com
     
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  2. Forebearance

    Forebearance Well-Known Member

    Here is another website about the BAUD device and its use in therapy:
    http://www.baudtherapy.com/

    I would try this in a heartbeat if it were available in my area. I suppose I need to research that next.
     
  3. Forebearance

    Forebearance Well-Known Member

    Another thing I ran across, which may be a bit more new-agey and fringe-y is some music that is supposed to promote healing, called Wholetones. It is described at this website: http://www.wholetones.com
    I suppose I will try it as soon as I have some extra spending money.
     
  4. rebar

    rebar Active Member

    Interesting, although I looked and didn't see enough supporting information. It runs $500.00. It is supposedly doing something I've been working on for 6 months or so, limiting as much negative mental stimulation as possible. Music, prayer-meditation, avoidance of the news and Facebook.
    The music has to be calming and enhance meditation. I keep it running for several hours and most of the evening.
    I have, by my choices, moved myself to a more peaceful place and am having better days.
    I now define this as my job, to bring as much peace into my heart as possible.
    Green red productions has some Great calming music. I tried to add a link but wasn't able to, google it.

    Best of luck, I think its worth a try.
     
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  5. Remy

    Remy Administrator

    I tried Wholetones. It didn't do anything much for me, and was not exactly my cup of tea musically. But I think they have a money back guarantee, so worth a try!
     
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  6. Forebearance

    Forebearance Well-Known Member

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  7. Forebearance

    Forebearance Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the report, @Remy !
     
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  8. Hip

    Hip Well-Known Member

    The BAUD (Bio-acoustical Utilization Device) appears to be just a binaural beat generator.

    A completely free online binaural beat generator can be found here.
     
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  9. rebar

    rebar Active Member

    WOW, thanks Hip. It does something, I came away calmer after using it for 5 min. I now need to read more and find out if there is a down side.
     
  10. Hip

    Hip Well-Known Member

    Binaural beats have been around for decades, I've never come across any adverse effects from them. I used to experiment with binaural beats decades ago, when I was healthy, as an aid or alternative to mindfulness meditation.

    If you use the alpha wave or theta wave setting on the binaural beat generator, those are the brain waves that appear during meditation, and so you are encouraging your brain to get into a relaxed, meditative, more self aware state with the alpha and theta wave binaural beats.

    You have to wear headphones / earphones for binaural beats to work; they will not work through loudspeakers.
     
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  11. Forebearance

    Forebearance Well-Known Member

    Thanks, Hip. Now I'm wondering, if binaural beats have been around for decades, and are available for free online, then how did Dr. Lawlis get a patent on his device?
     
  12. Hip

    Hip Well-Known Member

    That you would only know by tracking down the patent and seeing what particular features on the device were patented.
     
  13. Forebearance

    Forebearance Well-Known Member

    There is also BrainSync, a company that makes CDs and MP3s. http://www.brainsync.com/
    They claim that their products optimize mental performance. Their healing CDs are supposed to "Revitalize your body, mind and spirit, and develop your innate healing powers."
    Has anybody tried one of them?
     
  14. pbyr

    pbyr Member

    I have been using binaural beats for a long time, works very well. You have to find the ones that work well. Best if using headphones.

    There are plenty on YouTube here is a Delta
     
  15. pbyr

    pbyr Member

    Solfeggio frequencies can work as well.

     
  16. Forebearance

    Forebearance Well-Known Member

    @pbyr , what do your binaural beats and Solfeggio frequencies do for you?
     
  17. Abrin

    Abrin Well-Known Member

    When it comes to binaural beats generators I vote for Gnaural. It is open-source and has been around forever. You can even get it for android phones.

    Now for the bad news, there really hadn't been a lot of scientific study when it comes to binaural beats so there is no real scientific proof that it works.
     
  18. Abrin

    Abrin Well-Known Member

    Since binaural beats are produced by electrical means it would be pretty easy to tweak a machine in a way in order to be able to patent it.

    Cellphones pre-existed before Apple released the iPhone but yet Apple and Samsung are still tied up in a huge court battle over 'design'.
     
  19. Forebearance

    Forebearance Well-Known Member

    Abrin, what does Gnaural do for you?
     
  20. pbyr

    pbyr Member

    It depends on the frequency and my needs. For instance some will reduce anxiety , there is a study one that I use when I need to learn new information, works wonders.

    It is important to find the ones that work for you, so you may have to cycle through a number of them.
     
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